James Long
M, ID No. 281, b. 8 July 1876, d. 20 November 1926
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Employment* | James was employed by the railroad as an electrician. |
Biography* | Born in NY according to 1910 census. |
Birth* | James Long was born on 8 July 1876 in County Cork, Ireland. |
Marriage* | James married Emelia Freda Utz, daughter of Friederika Christina Utz, on 26 October 1904 in Brooklyn, Kings County, New York. |
Death* | James died on 20 November 1926 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, at age 50. |
Burial* | He was buried after 20 November 1926 in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Mildred Pauline Long
F, ID No. 282, b. 27 October 1906, d. 24 October 1956
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James William Long
M, ID No. 283, b. 31 August 1908, d. 1 June 1970
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Gladys Irene Long
F, ID No. 284, b. 9 April 1911, d. 26 January 1964
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Birth* | Gladys Irene Long was born on 9 April 1911 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
| She was the daughter of James Long and Emelia Freda Utz. |
Marriage* | Edward and Gladys married on 21 July 1946 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York.1 |
Death* | Gladys died on 26 January 1964 in West Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, at age 52.2 |
Burial* | She was buried in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York.3 |
Citations
- [S2022] New York, New York Marriage Indexes, 1866-1937 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group, and used with permission of the New York City Department of Records/Municipal Archives, cert. 49977, Edward Metzger to Gladys I. Long, 21 Jul 1946 Hempstead, New York.
- [S2103] New York Death Index, 1957-1968 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: New York State Department of Health. Genealogical Research Death Index. Albany, New York, cert. 3964, entry for Gladys I. Metxger, age 52, d. 26 Jan 1964 Angle Sea, Nassau, New York.
- [S1560] Find a Grave Cemetery Database [database on-line], Salt Lake City, UT: Jim Tipton, http://www.findagrave.com, Cemetery transcriptions and photos submitted by volunteers, mem. 44890362, Greenfield Cemetery, entry for Gladys I. Metzger, b. 1911, d. 1964.
- [S1560] Find a Grave, Salt Lake City, UT: Jim Tipton, mem. 131999854, Jacksonville Memory Gardens, Jacksonville, Florida, entry for Sanda L. McMonigle, b. 9 May 1947, d. 27 Dec 2006.
Johannes Ludwig Utz
M, ID No. 285, b. 23 February 1829, d. 21 May 1888
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- Christian Ludwig Utz+ b. 15 Dec 1860, d. 30 Aug 1902
- Friederika Christina Utz+ b. 23 Oct 1861, d. 2 Apr 1923
- Johann Ludwig Utz b. 3 Oct 1862
- Carl Wilhelm Utz b. 24 Aug 1863, d. 4 Sep 1863
- Carl Heinrich Utz b. 9 Sep 1864, d. 7 Oct 1864
- Wilhelmina Carolina Utz b. 29 Jul 1865, d. 16 Aug 1865
- Carolina Paulina Utz b. 23 Jun 1866, d. 25 Jul 1866
- Rosia Paulina Utz b. 24 Aug 1867, d. 19 Sep 1867
- Helena Karolina Utz b. 15 Nov 1868, d. 30 Nov 1868
- Katherina Paulina Utz+ b. 26 Dec 1869, d. 14 Jun 1957
- Johann Gottlieb Utz b. 17 Dec 1870, d. 21 Jul 1871
- Herman Alfred Utz+ b. 18 May 1872, d. 22 Oct 1941
- Karl Robert Utz+ b. 23 Dec 1873
- Wilhelm August Utz b. 20 Jul 1874, d. 23 Sep 1874
- Emilia Luisa Utz b. 6 Nov 1875, d. 12 Jun 1876
- Wilhelmina Carolina Utz b. 15 Nov 1880
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Biography* | The family applied for permission to emigrate tothe US in March 1881 and travelled in May of 1881. They farmed in Roosevelt NY near Hempstead on Long Island. When Ludwig died, his wife moved to NYC to live with relatives. Their son Chris took over the farm, but was shortly kicked by a horse and died. His wife sold the farm and moved back to Germany. |
Birth* | Johannes Ludwig Utz was born on 23 February 1829 in Abstatt, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany. |
| He was the son of Johannes Utz and Helena Dorothea Röhrich. |
Marriage* | Johannes married Katherina Caroline Narr, daughter of Christoph Jacob Narr and Friedericka Häuszer, on 14 February 1860 in Auenstein, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany.1 |
Immigration* | Ludwig immigrated from Württemberg to the United States, arriving 9 April 1881 at Port of New York, New York County, New York. The family applied for permission to emigrate in March, shortly after the birth of Friederika's daughter, Emilia. They left Bremen, Germany, and travelled on the SS Oder, stopping in Southhampton before proceeding across the Atlantic to New York. The Oder, an iron hulled ship of the North German Lloyd line built in Scotland, had one screw and two masts and operated on the North Atlantic route from 1873-1886. In 1886 it was transferred to the Far East route and a year later was wrecked off the coast of Socotra.2,3 |
Death* | Johannes died on 21 May 1888 in Roosevelt, Nassau County, New York, at age 59. |
Burial* | He was buried after 21 May 1888 in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. 4. |
Citations
- [S2052] Germany, Select Marriages, 1558-1929 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, collection includes marriage records from Germany, film #1184944, marriage entry for Johann Ludwig Utz, son of Johannes Utz and Helena Dorothea Roehrich to Catharina Carolina Narr, dau. of Christoph Jakob Narr and Friederika Naeussen, marr. 21 Feb 1860 Auenstein, Germany.
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
- Greenfield Cemetery has no record of burial, but headstone is in place.
Katherina Caroline Narr
F, ID No. 286, b. 13 November 1834, d. 14 January 1900
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- Christian Ludwig Utz+ b. 15 Dec 1860, d. 30 Aug 1902
- Friederika Christina Utz+ b. 23 Oct 1861, d. 2 Apr 1923
- Johann Ludwig Utz b. 3 Oct 1862
- Carl Wilhelm Utz b. 24 Aug 1863, d. 4 Sep 1863
- Carl Heinrich Utz b. 9 Sep 1864, d. 7 Oct 1864
- Wilhelmina Carolina Utz b. 29 Jul 1865, d. 16 Aug 1865
- Carolina Paulina Utz b. 23 Jun 1866, d. 25 Jul 1866
- Rosia Paulina Utz b. 24 Aug 1867, d. 19 Sep 1867
- Helena Karolina Utz b. 15 Nov 1868, d. 30 Nov 1868
- Katherina Paulina Utz+ b. 26 Dec 1869, d. 14 Jun 1957
- Johann Gottlieb Utz b. 17 Dec 1870, d. 21 Jul 1871
- Herman Alfred Utz+ b. 18 May 1872, d. 22 Oct 1941
- Karl Robert Utz+ b. 23 Dec 1873
- Wilhelm August Utz b. 20 Jul 1874, d. 23 Sep 1874
- Emilia Luisa Utz b. 6 Nov 1875, d. 12 Jun 1876
- Wilhelmina Carolina Utz b. 15 Nov 1880
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Birth* | Katherina Caroline Narr was born on 13 November 1834 in Ulm, Württemberg, Germany.1 |
| She was the daughter of Christoph Jacob Narr and Friedericka Häuszer. |
Baptism | She was baptized on 23 November 1834 in Evangelische Kirche. Militärgemeinde Ulm (Donau), located in Ulm, Württemberg, Germany.1 |
Marriage* | Katherina married Johannes Ludwig Utz, son of Johannes Utz and Helena Dorothea Röhrich, on 14 February 1860 in Auenstein, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany.2 |
(spouse) Immigration | Caroline Utz (given age 47) was the spouse travelling with Ludwig Utz (given age 52) when he immigrated from Württemberg to the United States, arriving 9 April 1881 at Port of New York, New York County, New York.3,4 |
Death* | Katherina died on 14 January 1900 in Manhattan, New York County, New York, at age 65.5 |
Burial* | She was buried after 14 January 1900 in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Biography* | Buried in Greenfield Cemetery, Hempstead, NY, Sec. 22, lot 106, plot 3. Death certificate says buried in Westbury Cemetery 16 Jan 1900. Moved to NYC after husband's death: 255 Stockholm St., NYC. |
Citations
- [S2030] Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, collection includes birth and baptism records from Germany, film #1184873, entry for Katharina Karolina Narr, dau. of Christoph Jacob Narr and Friederika Hauffer, b. 13 Nov 1834, bap. 28 Nov 1834 Ulm, Germany.
- [S2052] Germany, Select Marriages, 1558-1929 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, collection includes marriage records from Germany, film #1184944, marriage entry for Johann Ludwig Utz, son of Johannes Utz and Helena Dorothea Roehrich to Catharina Carolina Narr, dau. of Christoph Jakob Narr and Friederika Naeussen, marr. 21 Feb 1860 Auenstein, Germany.
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
- [S1834] New York City Deaths, 1892-1902 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, this database is an index of deaths that occurred in New York City in the years 1892 to 1898 and 1900 to 1902, extracted from munincipal archives, cert. 892, Caroline C. Utz, age 65, d. 14 Jan 1900 New York City.
Karl Robert Utz
M, ID No. 287, b. 23 December 1873
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Citations
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
Christian Ludwig Utz
M, ID No. 288, b. 15 December 1860, d. 30 August 1902
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Farmer* | Christian Ludwig Utz farmed in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Marriage* | Christian married (?) (?). |
Birth* | Christian Ludwig Utz was born on 15 December 1860 in Germany. |
| He was the son of Johannes Ludwig Utz and Katherina Caroline Narr. |
(children) Immigration | Christ. Utz (given age 22) were children travelling with Ludwig Utz (given age 52) when he immigrated from Württemberg to the United States, arriving 9 April 1881 at Port of New York, New York County, New York.1,2 |
Naturalization* | He petitioned the court to become a citizen on 28 September 1888 in Queens County, New York.3 |
Census 1900* | Christian Utz (given age 39) was listed as the head of household on the 1900 Census recorded 9 June 1900 in Freeport Village, Nassau County, New York. The official date of this census was 1 Jun 1900. Also living in the household were, his niece, recorded as Amelia Utz (given age 19). Christian, still unmarried, farmed in Freeport with the assistance of a hired hand, John Walbur. His niece, Emilia, lived with them. Christian inidcated he came to the United States 19 years ago and was a naturalized citizen.4 |
Death* | Christian died on 30 August 1902 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, at age 41. After his death, his widow took the children back to Germany. |
Citations
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
- [S1623] Queens County Naturalization Index, 1850s-1957 [database on-line], published by German Genealogy Group, <www.germangenealogygroup.com>, Index to records of the Queens County Court by the Genealogy Federation of Long Island and the German Geneaology Group, bundle 8, petition 324, Christian L. Utz, 28 Sep 1888.
- [S1134] Christian Utz household, U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900: Population Schedule, Microfilm Publication T-623, National Archives, Washington, DC, Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Roll T623_ 1079, Page 12B, Enumeration District 695, line 52, dwelling 238, family 251.
Katherina Paulina Utz
F, ID No. 289, b. 26 December 1869, d. 14 June 1957
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Biography* | Greenfield Cem., sec. 13, lot 83, plots 4&5. |
Birth* | Katherina Paulina Utz was born on 26 December 1869 in Abstatt, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany. |
| She was the daughter of Johannes Ludwig Utz and Katherina Caroline Narr. |
(children) Immigration | Pauline Utz (given age 10) were children travelling with Ludwig Utz (given age 52) when he immigrated from Württemberg to the United States, arriving 9 April 1881 at Port of New York, New York County, New York.1,2 |
Marriage* | Katherina married Henry Leonard Heil on 10 March 1892 in Kings County, New York.3 |
Death* | Katherina died on 14 June 1957 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, at age 87. |
Burial* | She was buried after 14 June 1957 in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Citations
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
- [S2022] New York, New York Marriage Indexes, 1866-1937 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group, and used with permission of the New York City Department of Records/Municipal Archives, Kings, cert. 874, Pauline C. Utz to Heinrich L. Heil, marr. 10 Mar 1892.
Herman Alfred Utz
M, ID No. 290, b. 18 May 1872, d. 22 October 1941
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Occupation* | Herman was a blacksmith in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Biography* | Lived in Hempstead Twp in 1900 census. Immigrated in 1880 according to 1910 census. Buried in Greenfield Cemetery, sec. 22, lot 67, plot 3. |
Marriage* | Herman married Ellen Kinsey. |
Birth* | Herman Alfred Utz was born on 18 May 1872 in Abstatt, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany. |
| He was the son of Johannes Ludwig Utz and Katherina Caroline Narr. |
(children) Immigration | Herm. Utz (given age 8) were children travelling with Ludwig Utz (given age 52) when he immigrated from Württemberg to the United States, arriving 9 April 1881 at Port of New York, New York County, New York.1,2 |
Census 1900* | Herman Utz (given age 28) was listed as the head of household on the 1900 Census recorded 19 June 1900 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. The official date of this census was 1 Jun 1900. Also living in the household were his wife, recorded as Ellie Utz (given age 26), his daughter, recorded as Minnie V. Utz (given age 1). Herman and Ellie lived in the town of Hempstead, where Herman was employed as a blacksmith.3 |
Census 1920* | Herman Alfred Utz was listed as the head of household on the 1920 Census recorded 16 January 1920 in Franklin Square, Nassau County, New York. The official date of this census was 1 Jan 1920. Also living in the household were his wife, recorded as Ellen Utz (given age 45), his son, recorded as Herman A. Utz (given age 17), his daughter, recorded as Minnie V. Utz (given age 20). They lived on Fulton Street, where Herman was engaged in truck farming. His son, Herman, worked in a garage as a machinist.4 |
Census 1930* | Herman was listed as the head of household on the 1930 Census recorded 10 April 1930 in Franklin Square, Nassau County, New York. The official date of this census was 1 Apr 1930. Also living in the household were his wife, recorded as Ellen Utz (given age 55), his daughter, recorded as Viola Randell (given age 30). They lived on the Hempstead Turnpike, where Herman was engaged in farming.5 |
Census 1940* | Herman was listed as the head of household on the 1940 Census recorded 10 April 1940 in Franklin Square, Nassau County, New York. The official date of this census was 1 Apr 1940. Also living in the household were his wife, recorded as Ellen Utz (given age 66), his daughter, recorded as Viola Utz (given age 40). Herman and Ellen farmed in Franklin Square with their daughter. They lived at 150 Hempstead Turnpike.6 |
Death* | Herman died on 22 October 1941 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, at age 69. |
Burial* | He was buried after 22 October 1941 in Greenfield Cemetery, located in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. |
Citations
- [S1643] Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index [database on-line], published by Ancestry Inc, http://www.ancestry.com, Original data: Schenk, Trudy. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Vol. I-VIII. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Ancestry, Inc., 1986, record no. 834623, Johannes Ludwig F. Utz, b. 23 Feb 1829 Abstatt, applied Mar 1881 for emigration to North America.
- [S1057] New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line], published by Ancestry.com, http://www.ancestry.com, compiled from Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 (Pub M237); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; and Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (Pub T715), M237, roll 434, list 376, SS Oder, North German Lloyd line, from Bremen and Southhampton to Port of New York, 9 Apr 1881, entry for Ludw. Utz family, lines 591-600.
- [S1134] Herman Utz household, U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900: Population Schedule, Microfilm Publication T-623, National Archives, Washington, DC, Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Roll T623_1079, Page 12A, Enumeration District 705, line 44, dwelling 233, family 257.
- [S1136] Herman A. Utz household, U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920: Population Schedule, Microfilm Publication T-625, 2,076 rolls, National Archives, Washington, DC, Franklin Square, Nassau, New York; Roll T625_1127, Page 1A, Enumeration District 27, line 5, dwelling 2, family 2.
- [S1137] Herman Utz household, U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930: Population Schedule, Microfilm Publication T-626, 2,667 rolls, National Archives, Washington, DC, Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Roll 1459, Page 8A, Enumeration District 86, line 34, dwelling 173A, family 193.
- [S1945] Herman A. Utz household, U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940: Population Schedule, Microfilm Publication T-627, 4,643 rolls, Washington, DC: National Archives, 1940, Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Roll T627_2690, Page 63B, Enumeration District 30-191, line 77, family 70.